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Lift Lurker

Why doesn't wikileaks publish source of its documents? Or they find it useful to keep secrets?

Why does Assange decide what to publish? Or he find it useful to be the censor for all of us?

Chamin AKA Maria Chaminda Veneracion DeJesus III

It is here, too!

http://213.251.145.96/

I think the delay is a matter of formatting. But I am anxious to see posts from and about some countries :-p

grandpa

"Why doesn't wikileaks publish source of its documents? "

If he did , most of his " suppliers" would be killed, accidently , of course,err as usual
Wiping out the top brass of an Army is an act of War.
Who want to wage a war against well equipped warmongers?

blackmasquerade

Just type www.wikileaks.ch then. It works in my country.

grandpa

Humm
Doe wikiieaks really exists?
Isn' it a new conspiracy ( like the body scanners) to raise funds to re-develop spying industry,anti hacking procedures , and phish out on the internet who is the web enemy?

After all , this guy was not arrested when he reported war events, but he was arrested only when he published gossips about the rich and famous ( not the ones we are familiar with)

Those guys are sooo scared that their ex would publish pictures of them in their Adam's suit.
They would loose their credibility instantly.
It reminds me of a lesson learned from my philosophy teacher.
when you are going to take an oral exam and if you are scared of the examiner, imagine
him or her in the nude.
You fear will disappear instantly

grandpa

Imagine some world leaders with either their monkey tail , or their donkey tail showing.
Imagine others with their "brain", located in the wrong place

Peter B

One of your best columns yet ( I was asking myself exactly the same question about Hillary Clinton and Kim Jong ( the very) Il .

But to more serious matters : listen to this speech by J F Kennedy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLgkKXcQkqs

Or search Youtube for "J F Kennedy Speech on secrecy"

Nury

Thanks for the comments, and thanks, Peter, for the Kennedy link.
A curiosity about secrets:
A reporter once asked me if what I was about to say was on or off the record.
It was a curious question, or so it seemed to me. I told her that everything I said and did was on the record.
Thinking it over, I reckon that if you grow up in a certain way, particularly if you have a religious upbringing like me (it may work for humanists, too), then you don't divide your speeches or actions into "on" or "off" the record.
Everything is automatically on the record.
She didn't understand what I was saying: it just wasn't comprehensible to her.

grandpa

They could not shut him up
they could not lock him up.
They just took a more drastic course of action .....as usual
No one knows what really happened .....

TS

Christmas Island is not a country but an.. ahem.. island belonging to Australia.

Santa Claus is currently in internment there and his reindeer is in quarantine, while Australian immigration authorities are processing his visa application.
They clearly did not buy his story about having to give presents to all the children of Australia.

Lift Lurker

If he did , most of his " suppliers" would be killed,

That's my point grandpa. Why double-standard? Why ok for Assange to reveal government sources (and endanger their life), but not ok for Wikileaks to reveal it's sources?

My country regularly spy on Escalator Kingdom (unimaginative, warmonger, backward country). This is so we know what they are doing. And so we can negotiate better to achieve peace with Liftuania (Lifts everywhere). If wikileaks publish names of our contacts inside Escalia, how does it help the world?

Why does he keep other secrets and not publish all? Why keep some for 'blackmail' purposes? What happen to 'no secrets'?

Sorry but I see double standard. I am not a fan.

I do not even like his show Queer Eye.

Chamin

I am not sure if Assange's revelations so far has endangered anybody's life.

Or am I wrong? Are all the people who are against the US military presence in Iraq lining up to kill the USAF gunman in the Wikileaks video? Is he surrounded by bodyguards even when he goes for a pee?

Something is weird. If people don't let TSA peep at them or molest them, that endangers lives. If people don't let FBI tap in to personal information, that endangers lives. You guess...

grandpa

"Santa Claus is currently in internment there and his reindeer is in quarantine"
another government abuse/protectionism.
for there on Santa claus must use kangaroos down under

sej

Lift Lurker,

I believe Wikileaks does not ask for the identity of the person releasing the information, therefore, even if they wanted to release the info, they couldn't. Hence, no double standard.

If they were openly willing to release the info, then no one would release info to them for fear of getting caught.

All that said, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you do, everything is tracable. There is always a record, even when something's "off the record".

TS

I suspected that Elevatoria (official name: People's Democratic Republic of Elevatoria) would be the arch-enemy of Liftuania?

I always thought that the elevator shoes looked ridiculous on Upurshafts Aholes (the supreme leader of Elevatoria).

Lift Lurker

sej,

From

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/04/wikileaks-julian-assange-iraq-video?page=3


If the submission's source is known, the group investigates the leaker as best they can. Who gets the final call in a dispute? "Me, actually," Assange says. "I'm the final decision if the document is legit."

Mr Assange decide for all of us if document is beneficial to entire countries.

--

TS, Elevatoria is not arch enemy of Liftuania. We love their people and their leader. If you find info in Wikileaks about "Operation Elevatoria Doomsday", it is about surprise birthday gift from us to them. Keep it secret.

--

All, does anyone know how to fit 125mm gun turrets on top of Lifts?

Victoria

This was an extremely interesting article!

Anonymised

It seems xkcd monitors this site as well:

http://xkcd.com/834/

sej

Lift Lurker,

"If the submission's source is known"

That says to me it is far from mandatory to supply your details when you submit something to be published...

Lift Lurker

sej, correct. But also means sometimes source is known. If he don't publish those, then double standard.

He should be jailed for violation of law of double standard (worse than violation of law of supply and demand)

I think xkcd cartoon above show the irony in humorous way.

Whoever

Very funny as usual
But there's a typo, it should be Guo Ziyi, not Guo Zyi.

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