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Balaji Perumal

The Japanese are so polite, they dont have a word for "No" in their language which is very interesting.

guilt ridden

I'm sorry I had to laugh at those last few lines, where the japanese are bowing in front of trains and having their heads knocked off! it's really horrible bt it's also really funny

angela

Last week I was queuing up behind 2 Japanese ladies at the bus stop and when the bus arrived it took 5 minutes for all of us to get in because the two women in front of me keep nodding to each other and saying "Douzo" to each other repeatedly until one woman finally got on first. If I were a kiasu singaporean I would be peeved by all the fuss and walk past them but I am also a foreigner and I was just standing there as if in a trance, amazed by the display of courtesy.

When we all got in and tapped our EZlink card, I walked passed them to stand in the middle section but the two were once again stuck at the bottom of the stairs going to the top deck because once more they were slightly bowing and "douzo-ing" each other...I couldn't figure out how many times and how does one know who should go first? is there a rule to follow?
I was just amazed :)

Dancer

Yeah, bowing is a must and it doesn't just happen in Japan either. If you're involved with any Japanese traditional arts teachers in Hong Kong, you always have to reserve at least 15 minutes at the end of each meeting for bowing and saying goodbye. Polite but not very efficient, really. Your neck muscles do become more flexible though.

Anytime any traditional arts big shots from Japan come to Hong Kong, we always block any hotel lobby that he/she happens to be in just by standing in a straight line and bowing consistently. The number of 'we' depends on how big is the 'big shot'. This exercise usually lasts for more than 15 minutes. Needless to say, we're not very popular with the hotel staff. Local people and tourists alike usually look at us with incredulity.

Dancer

There is no rule as to how many 'douzo'. Usually you just keep on going until one gives in. However, if you're with your boss/senior/anybody seemingly scary and powerful, no matter how he/she insists, you don't back down. Let them go first. This will avoid future bloodshed.

Stevadore

lol!I thought Nury was joking when he said that they keep bowing and then run out of time for the meeting tiself. Bt the stories from Angela and Dancer make me realize that there is no exaggeration at all!

this is my question. despite the criticism of ultra-polite societies like japan, when will the day come when singapore and hong kong and ESPECIALLY china willbecome more polite? I travel a lot and I get so fed up of being knocked over at train doors and at ticket windows.
these days I always let people go in front of me if we arrive at the turnstile at roughly the same time.
They never say thank you, so i just bark "thankyou" at the time. My point is that someone should say thank you ad if they are not going to do it I might as well do it.
They usually just give me a strange look as if to say why did that guy let me go first and then say thank you?
but hopefully something will stick deep down in their subsconscious which will connect "being allowed to go first" with "saying thank you."

Chaminda

I came to Japan for the first time after staying a year in Singapore. The difference in politeness alone was enough to give me a huge culture shock.

To understand how appreiciable politeness (not fake smile) is,
talk to the Japanese air hostess if you are flying Singapore Airlines.

Piya

Oops!, I just knocked my monitor down.
Arigatho Nuri!!

Tokyo Joe

They've been trying to stop people bowing on escalators for years. It's so dangerous. But Mr Average Salaryman would rather die than miss a chance to bow.

So he does bow.

And he does die.

Mikyu

@ Balaji Perumal: There is a word for "no" in Japanese. It's "iie" :)

Anyway, seriously? That happens in Japan? The accidents and stuffs? That cracked me up! Hahahaha. But really, I do think Japanese people are very polite! I even wish Filipinos have the bowing thing too. Hehehe. :P

Angela

Mikyu, Filipinos have "Po" which is as polite as bowing but definitely less dangerous. And you can do it in the escalator and mrt without risk of losing your head, no?

Santox

It's interesting to know further how the Japanese acquired this bowing custom of 'douzo'; so reflective of their courteous culture.

But to overdo it, like you mentioned, could endanger the people involved, like bowing to a hit-on at a railway platform and bowing to fatality on an escalator.

It appears that Japanese would bow only to their own people; and practise shaking hands with other nationals. I would be amused at the scene when a foreigner wants to sample the Japanese bowing of 'douzo', bows and his Japanese counterpart stretches out his hand readying to shake but managed to 'pat' the other person's head.

JR East

The danger is when someone waiting on one train platform sees someone richer or older on the next platform.

They immediately forget about the approaching train, bow low, right over the track, and --- bang.

From their point of view, it's not funny at all. But it is such a silly way to go that it;s hard for the rest of us not to lol.

zÆRo

This does bring into view how impolite our society is now. I mean, in HK, I get all sorts of wierd looks just because I bothered to give people a curt nod and a "thanks" when I get served in restaurants and etc.

Gina

Nury, you are wickedly funny! In Bangladesh we just say 'assalam wa laikum' keeping our postures straight, bowing to people is actually against our religion, although culturally we still do touch the feet of our elderlies when greeting them or parting with them. It's a step further than the Japanese bow - as we have to touch people's toes!

Nury

Gina, thanks for the information -- that was news to me.
Wow, touching my feet would be a truly abasing experience. You could catch all sorts of diseases. It reminds me of that bit in the Bible where Jesus insists on washing the disciples' feet. I guess it's a pretty long tradition.
My friends tell me that foot massages are really relaxing but they don't work for me. I am too ticklish.

Muhmood Zubair

Responding to Mr. Balaji Perumal's post,...There is a word for "NO" in Japanese and that is "IIE"....But what is interesting is that they say "NO" in such a way that you would think they agree with you when they don't....

Hisa

Chigaimasu is a stronger word for NO

but you really dont hear people say it unless there are arguing

sometimes you dont even hear it even they ARE arguing

sej
    "I am too ticklish"
Someone once told me, being ticklish means you are not or will not be frightened by your wife.

I doubt this is true, but I can certainly understand where the idea comes from.

Just thought I'd share a little tid-bit that just seemed to have come from nowhere.

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