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khirsah

sorry, can't resist the need to clarify...

"yanjiu" in mandarin can also mean "research" or "study" depending on how you accent it.
E.g.
"I need to "yanjiu yanjiu" your proposal" can mean

"I need to study your proposal" or

"I'm expecting (imported) cigarettes and liquor or some other form of bribery"

also

"Where got!" is normally the response to "Is it convenient to pay me what you owe me now?".

In such a context, "where got" means "Since when did I owe you anything?".

Another way to use "Where got!" is when you ask me

"khirsah, are you saying I don't know Englasian?" and I reply

"Where got!" (must come with exclamation marks one) :p

Have a great weekend!

Vince A

William Strunk must be having seizures in his grave.

His mantra for crisp English writing: "Omit needless words!", has been taught to generations of Asians studying English writing.

Yes Professor Strunk, the words r indeed being omitted, n shrunk 2 single letters, n turned into numbers.

Nury

Let's put together a dictionary of Asian English between us -- I bet I could sell the idea to a publisher. In fact, I am due to have lunch with a big publisher today. He may be a bit too serious to take the idea for himself, but he could certainly advise on who might be interested in it...

godiva

I'm asian, yet I could hardly understand the words, and so, I believe, would most Asians, thus technically we can not call it Englasian, could we? So yes, a dictionary is a good idea. Then we should make learning it part of the curriculum in our schools, so that any asian going to other asian countries won't have to worry about communication. Lets lah! (btw, "lets" is short for let's do it)

Codie

Fan ketzup (Cantonese in HK) means "tomato juice" or "tomato sauce" in English. We say "Fan keh zup" or it's short form "keh zup". So it's quite strange that "Ketchup" is used in English instead of "tomato sauce".

I think using "foreign vegetable juice" is inappropriate.

johenho

When leaving the airport here in Xiamen, Fujian, there is big sign over the road, "No Knocking". There is a no honking law here. Guess that's what it means?????

godiva

I need to know what this means: "Wang God Credited 4". This was the English Title of a Korean TV series...

fardel

The original language (English, Spanish or French ) can be easily recognized :the speaker wears a three- piece suit,is too serious and speaks to you in a nose-up attitude (like your banker when you need a loan );
The common language can be recognized too, the speaker is young ,dressed in school/ university uniform : It is widely spoken worldwide, except by the distant cousins from Asia ,Africa or the Caribbean.
The "distant" language can be recognized more easily: the speaker has a brown to dark complexion ,wears a T shirt , speaks with his body as much as with his mouth, has a big smile when addressing the foreigner, and will go to any extent to be understood, whatever time it takes.
Integrated in the colorful world of images and mixture of languages of former colonies, it is a language in itself.
The idea of a Englasian dictionary would be great , especially for us , tourists.
I cannot wait to see you , on a videoctionary , giving the direction to the local tourist attraction with the subtle but perceptibe difference and gestures between Malaysian or East Indian English, Singaporean English, Honk Kong or Philipino English;
We would not expect you to include Aussie English in this videoctionary;

Pedant

Codie, I believe that the most common theory among scholars is that the word pronounced ketchup actually started as a fish sauce (so the ke was not from Cantonese tomato, but a different ke, meaning fish in the Amoy dialect). Early descriptions of ketchup show it to be a sauce primarily consisting of fish brine or mushrooms, but with no mention of tomatoes. The Europeans picked up a taste for it from the Amoy communities in Malaya and Indonesia. Europeans started experimenting with it, eventually losing the fish and the mushrooms and added tomatoes.

fardel

my daughter 's first lesson inEnglasian, she thought it was Chinese:

That's not right! Sum Ting Wong
Are you harbouring a fugitive? Hu Yu Hai Ding
See me ASAP Kum Hia Nao
Small Horse Tai Ni Po Ni
Did you go to the beach? Wai Yu So Tan
I think you need a face lift! Chin Tu Fat
It's very dark in here! Wai So Dim
I thought you were on a diet! Wai Yu Mun Ching
This is a tow away zone! No Pah King
Our meeting is scheduled for next week! Wai Yu Kum Nao
Staying out of sight Lei Ying Lo
He's cleaning his automobile Wa Shing Ka
Your body odour is offensive Yu Stin Ki Pu

Keith Yoong

There was this sign on the glass door of a lot in a shopping complex in Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia.

"One day we will close".

It actually meant the shop was closed for a day!

fardel

The Mexicans call the tomato sauce Katsup ( pronounce cat soup ).Has it been influence by Englasian too?

fardel


"Only 1 left in stock--order soon (more on the way)."
about Nury's book on an internet site

Lisa

Vince A, yeah, I thought of writing up a dictionary myself. Some of the first Englasian terms I learned at school was of course the Alphabet. Ever try spelling Zebra to a local?
How to spell?
zed-ee-bee-ar-ay
Huh? es-ee-bee-I-ay?
No! Gosh, ok, eezed-ee-bee-arlo-ay
ohhh.... ok la.

Then there's this one: Kem cheen.
I thought they were talking about a science subject like chemistry. Turns out they were talking about getting a reimbursement.
chem = claim (english)
cheen = cantonese for money

Lisa

And has anyone noticed that all males are "winsun"?
You get a guy's namecard and it says Vincent.
So you ask for Vincent and no one knows who it is, but then you spell his name and they go, "Ohhh.... winsun."
Then of course there's Wilson and Winston but they are still pronounced "winsun".
My sis decided to call her son Rayson, since her husband's name is Ray. Our Filipino helper started calling him "winsun" too. She also talks about feeding our kid 'beer'. We discovered she meant pear.

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